Ali Velshi of MSNBC used his Saturday show to reflect on the fact that Ukrainians fleeing the war in their country benefit by becoming white Christians while Syrians and Afghans do not.
Velshi asked his question AtlanticIts Caitlin Dickerson and was confident she already knew the answer, “I think I know the answer, but why weren’t we good at it? We – we – were not good with the Afghans, we were not good with the Syrians, we are – we are doing well with the Ukrainians, and many people think, and they deserve, we can help them in every way, but many people think That they are white and Christians and not others. “
Dickerson tried to do it both ways, “There are a number of reasons, and I’ve talked to a lot of experts this week who have said that this distinction would only be reduced to race.” But as you mentioned, there are undeniable differences that have frustrated many. “
Wellesley mentions Afghans, so it would be nice to mention that the United States has accepted about 75,000 Afghans since last summer, in addition to all since 2001, a comparison that he has made less intense than he portrayed.
Dickerson, however, points to some differences, comparing Ukrainians fleeing Russian aggression to “a large number of people from Vietnam or Cuba seeking communism” and using the situation as a way to portray Vladimir Putin as a bad guy, although he explicitly points out. Wanted to say “escape from communism.”
He further argued that the clear distinction between good boys and bad boys in this war makes it easier for refugees to be accepted, as well as President Biden’s efforts to “show a sense of solidarity with the EU”.
Unfortunately, Dickerson underestimated his own argument, concluding, “But again, you know, we were talking about Syrians before, you know, Syrians who just a few years ago faced chemical weapons in support of Putin as well as the ground war. The same support from the United States.” Get it. ”
Even when MSNBC makes decent arguments, they immediately deny themselves for the sake of narration and ruin it.
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Here is a transcript for the March 26 event:
9:57 AM ET
Ali Velshi: Why do you think, I mean, why — why কি what we are, I think I know the answer, but why we were not good at it? We – we – were not good with the Afghans, we were not good with the Syrians, we are – we are doing good with the Ukrainians, and many people think, and they deserve all the help we can give them, but many people think Either because they are white and Christian and others are not.
Caitlin Dickerson: There are a lot of reasons, and I’ve talked to a lot of experts this week who have said that this distinction will only make less of a difference. But as you mentioned, there are undeniable differences that have frustrated many. I mean, I can talk, you know, the key to this conflict and how the United States has historically used these policies. You know, as you and I have discussed, policies such as asylum, refugee resettlement, and temporary protection that we have recently opened up to Ukrainians, who are already in the United States, undocumented or waiting for a solution. Asylum case, one year of protection.
These are not just benevolent principles, they never were. These are the geopolitical tools we have historically used to show our superiority as a nation. So when we took in a huge number of people looking for communism from Vietnam or Cuba, it was the same thing. It is like a final dig in the international arena telling your enemy, you know, your people are fleeing or in this case the territory that people are trying to occupy, they are fleeing and coming to us for protection. That is how developed we are as a country.
And so it’s a way to help people, but also to show our strength. And in this case, too, we are trying to show President Biden a sense of solidarity with the EU – as you know, the whole West is strategizing right now to keep this conflict from escalating, and so this is a way to tell Europe that we are behind you. In the eyes of those who are making these decisions in Washington, at least in the United States, there is a clear dog in the fight. But again, you know, we were talking about Syrians before, you know, Syrians who just a few years ago were facing a ground war as well as Putin-assisted chemical weapons and could not get the same support from the United States.